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Tesla “Full Self Driving” v10.5 & v10.8 — Half 2

A abstract of my observations of the enhancements made to Tesla Autosteer, Site visitors-Conscious Cruise Management (TACC), and “Full Self Driving” (FSD) going from v10.5 to v10.8.

Observe: I proceed to watch new habits. Thus, this abstract shouldn’t be complete.


I’ve been educating alpine snowboarding on the Brighton Resort in Utah, which is 49 miles from my residence close to Orem, Utah. The journey consists of 18 miles up an extended winding Large Cottonwood Canyon Highway. In my outdated two-wheel-drive Nissan Leaf, it was such a problem that on snowy days I needed to park on the backside of the canyon and hitchhike up the canyon. With my dual-motor (4-wheel-drive) Tesla Mannequin 3, I could make the journey in any climate. (I’ll talk about winter driving with FSD in one other article.) With customary Autosteer/TACC, my Tesla would drive the canyon routinely besides for 2 units of hairpin turns marked 15 mph proven a brief distance up the canyon in Determine 2. With FSD, my automotive will now routinely drive the entire canyon flawlessly.

Determine 2: Large Cottonwood Canyon to Brighton and Little Cottonwood Canyon to Alta — in Cottonwood Heights, Utah. Courtesy of USGS.

With FSD, our Tesla will now steer routinely on metropolis streets and nation roads with no lane markings! For individuals who reside in rural areas, this alone may be cause sufficient to buy FSD. You don’t have to make use of computerized navigation to make use of this characteristic. You need to use it identical to the outdated Autosteer.

Phantom Braking

Even the TACC that comes with each Tesla has an issue with phantom braking. Essentially the most constant downside was when a automobile would cross your path and your automotive would brake although it could be apparent to anybody that the automobile could be properly away from your path by the point you reached the crossing automobile’s path.

The crossing automobile downside seems to be fully corrected by v10.8

Nevertheless, each v10.5 and v10.8 seem to me to have many extra unexplained random phantom braking occasions than the outdated TACC.

I surmise that it’s because Tesla is attempting to be way more proactive in variations 10.x about stopping for pedestrians, bikes, and fireplace vans stopped within the street than within the outdated TACC. I surmise that variations 10.x can’t all the time inform the distinction between an actual object the place braking is important and a few slight variation in lighting, shadows on the pavement, and many others. [Editor’s note: I assume it’s largely from switching to “vision only” — only using cameras and no longer using radar. However, it does seem to be improving gradually.]

Resolution: Preserve your foot calmly on the accelerator and be ready so as to add throttle if phantom braking would trigger hazard from following automobiles.

Avoiding Autos Protruding into Your Lane in addition to Pedestrians & Bike Riders in Your Lane

In the previous couple of days with FSD v10.8, my automotive has moved neatly to the left on separate events to keep away from a pedestrian and a bicycle rider. It would additionally transfer to the left to keep away from automobiles protruding into my lane. Though, I maintain my breath as a result of it passes them fairly intently. Sadly, there are conditions with freeway development site visitors cones the place it could actually’t discover the proper path. When the automotive will get too near the cones, I abort. I’m not prepared to take an opportunity on hitting the cones.

Exhausting Non-Regenerative Braking Improved

With v10.5 of FSD, in addition to common TACC, the automotive would strategy a stoplight or stopped automotive at full pace — say, 50 mph — after which brake fairly arduous simply in time to make a secure cease. With v10.8, as defined within the Person Notes, the automotive slows earlier and makes a smoother cease. It’s nonetheless a more durable cease than customary regenerative braking, however I can’t inform whether or not the disc brakes are used or not.

Computerized Up & Down Velocity Adjustment

With common FSD, the automotive will truly learn the pace restrict indicators and sluggish the automotive down when coming into a decrease pace restrict in a built-up space. I obtained a $350 superb and a ticket for reckless rushing once I missed the slower pace restrict in a small Wisconsin city a couple of years in the past. This characteristic eliminates this risk. Nevertheless, if you depart the city, FSD won’t routinely return to the upper pace restrict out within the nation. With FSD, the automotive will routinely alter your pace up or down always.

80 mph Most Velocity Restrict with FSD Beta

It’s fairly widespread within the Western US to have pace limits of 80 mph and even greater. Let’s say you have got your pace set to 80 mph in an 80 mph pace zone and also you wish to pace as much as rapidly move a slower shifting automotive. If you happen to occur to exceed 80 mph, say to solely 82 mph, you might be in large bother! To start out, you will note a crimson graphic steering wheel flashing at you, however that’s not the worst half. You’ll have to pull off the freeway on the subsequent exit, deliver your automotive to a full cease and put it in park earlier than you have got entry to FSD once more.

Resolution: flip off FSD by pushing the fitting steering wheel stalk up earlier than you enhance your pace.

Uncle Elon Trying over Your Shoulder

With v10.5, should you don’t anally preserve your eyes on the street, even trying on the navigation display to your proper or down at your telephone for greater than ~10 seconds, you get a warning sign. Very sometimes it provides you the warning sign even in case you are trying on the street. The Mannequin 3 has a cabin digital camera by the mirror that’s watching your face. Based on Tesla that knowledge doesn’t depart the automotive. With model v10.8 uncle Elon appears to have mellowed a bit.

Timid Conduct at Cease Indicators and Rotaries

With v10.5 of FSD, the automotive will cease lifeless when coming into a rotary. It would additionally painfully slowly cease lifeless at a cease signal (in some instances 20 ft earlier than the cease signal). In each instances, it should then inch ahead slowly to look out for oncoming or cross site visitors. This habits wouldn’t be acceptable to a driver not prepared to patiently wait till the automotive proceeds. Additionally, if there’s a automotive behind you, most drivers could be honking at you earlier than your automotive lastly will get shifting. Satirically, the automotive will cease rapidly behind a stopped automotive or at a cease gentle. I feel this habits is marginally higher with v10.8.

Two options: 1) Flip off FSD and drive manually. 2) Slight stress on the accelerator will get your automotive shifting whereas persevering with with FSD.

Unprotected (No Site visitors Gentle) Left Turns

Making unprotected (no site visitors gentle) left turns throughout a busy road is a significant issue. You will want the endurance of Job and no automotive behind you to do that. Then when the automotive lastly makes the flip, it could be too sluggish for late-arriving site visitors. Nevertheless, that is additionally an issue for all however essentially the most skilled and fairly aggressive human drivers.

Resolution: Make left turns at cease lights onto busy streets at any time when doable.

Keep tuned for Half 3 of this sequence.


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